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how dare karl rove and his money guys try to do any such thing. and so yes, paul broun and steve king may be the prototypical examples of the kind of off the cooke end candidates that karl rove and the big money guys do not want in republican politics, because those are the kind of guys that lose senate seats that are otherwise winnable. but karl rove and his money guys kind of stand alone in that assessment. the rest of the party wants that. they want those guys. and they want it not naively. they know what they are getting. steve king and paul broun have been around for a long time. when the party stands up and says these are the guys they want, they know who they're talking about. they know who these guys are. and it is what they choose. so if you were a republican party stalwart, if you were part of the republican party and you loved the republican party and you wanted what was best for the republican party, what would you do at a time like this? what would you say? how would you try to fix this problem? well, today in washington house majorit
how dare karl rove and his money guys try to do any such thing. and so yes, paul broun and steve king may be the prototypical examples of the kind of off the cooke end candidates that karl rove and the big money guys do not want in republican politics, because those are the kind of guys that lose senate seats that are otherwise winnable. but karl rove and his money guys kind of stand alone in that assessment. the rest of the party wants that. they want those guys. and they want it not naively....
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and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican establishment that rove represents? it's money people. but where are the voters within the republican party. it's not just tea party, it's the real base of the republican party whether they call themselves tea partiers or not. this is what they want. >> i was struck by how unified the reaction against rove was on the right. i mean, all of the influential -- all of the right-wing blogs that are influential enough that a liberal like me knows to go read them. >> right. >> all of them unified with being just disgusted with karl rove for having suggested this. it seems as though this is a v
and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican...
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a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not playing well even in a conservative state like georgia when you're talking statewide in the general. what do you say? >> well, of course, paul is going to get a lot of competition in that primary fight. you're going to be looking at guys like tom price and tom graves who have an incredibly strong record of fiscal conservatism. i think the core of the tea party, remember, is not social issues, it's not abortion, it's not immigration, it's not these other things. it's whether or not we should spend money we don't have. it's whether or not the government should live w
a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not...
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and his chief architect, the golden child, was karl rove. if they thought he was so bad now, didn't they think that he was so bad then? apparently not. i have another thought. if he raised and spent $300 million on failed candidates, krystal just gave you the number, 1.29%, imagine if they had spent $300 million on geotv in states like florida. or i have another state, pennsylvania. or maybe just crazy, virginia. oh, wait, they lost all three of those. >> yes, indeed. >> not to give them a playbook, but i'm just saying. >> you're giving them good advice. >> krystal, that interview stirred a bit of controversy among some conservatives. take a listen to this claim by karl rove. >> i was the director of the texas campaign for ronald reagan in the fall of 1980. >> now, that was interesting, krystal because reagan biographer craig shirley in an e-mail to conservatives today alleges in the course of his research, i'm quoting, at no time did i come across mr. rove's name in association with the reagan campaign. regardless of the veracity of this al
and his chief architect, the golden child, was karl rove. if they thought he was so bad now, didn't they think that he was so bad then? apparently not. i have another thought. if he raised and spent $300 million on failed candidates, krystal just gave you the number, 1.29%, imagine if they had spent $300 million on geotv in states like florida. or i have another state, pennsylvania. or maybe just crazy, virginia. oh, wait, they lost all three of those. >> yes, indeed. >> not to give...
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and karl rove can't organize it. neither can any of the other people who played with that power but who now can't control it. >> so those who rode the tiger are now inside the tiger. >> exactly. >> don't forget, the chamber of commerce, at very times, made common cause with the antigovernment, anti-tax, anti-everything. they were willing to get in bed with him at certain points. and now they're paying for it. and karl is trying to unwind what he's wound. >> he's like a track tout. i used to go and after the races were over, they would show you who they'd recommend you'd bet on. it was always the winners that pass out the free picks. i would have bet on this guy. that's rove out there saying i would have had all of these winners picked, we would have won all of these general elections and now everybody realizes we're going to go over it in a minute. but your thoughts? >> now, i totally agree with howard. your analogy there. the problem for karl is we have all the betting slips. his two organizations, american cross ro
and karl rove can't organize it. neither can any of the other people who played with that power but who now can't control it. >> so those who rode the tiger are now inside the tiger. >> exactly. >> don't forget, the chamber of commerce, at very times, made common cause with the antigovernment, anti-tax, anti-everything. they were willing to get in bed with him at certain points. and now they're paying for it. and karl is trying to unwind what he's wound. >> he's like a...
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look at the rap sheet on this guy, karl rove. let's go down memory lane and remind ourselves at least, if the right wing doesn't, of some of karl rove's greatest hits. as a top adviser to george w. bush, he sold the war in iraq to everybody it seems. he got off scot-free even though he was at the center of the cia leak scandal. walked from that one. the architect couldn't help a republican majority in the 2006 midterms bring the democrats back to power in both the house and senate for the first time. he blew it all on the table. and in 2012 the sunlight foundation reported that crossroads had a 1%, $1 in $100, return on its election investment. so karl rove failed putting together a republican realignment, failed in holding the house and the white house and the senate, lost all that. got involved in the cia leak case, somehow got through that where scooter did get caught and the president -- actually the vice president should have been caught. that's not a good investment, joy, and yet there he is out there telling the republican
look at the rap sheet on this guy, karl rove. let's go down memory lane and remind ourselves at least, if the right wing doesn't, of some of karl rove's greatest hits. as a top adviser to george w. bush, he sold the war in iraq to everybody it seems. he got off scot-free even though he was at the center of the cia leak scandal. walked from that one. the architect couldn't help a republican majority in the 2006 midterms bring the democrats back to power in both the house and senate for the first...
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. >>> red rover, karl rove's new push to score some winners is getting pushback from powerful conservative groups. this morning, a debate between one of rove's point men and one of his top critics. >>> and who do you know? and do you know who this guy is? you should. he just might be the most powerful person in israeli politics not named netanyahu right now. find out what an unexpected power surge from the center could mean for u.s. hopes for mideast peace. >>> good morning from washington. it's tuesday, february 5th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get to my first reads. president obama's state of the union address is just a week from today and the president is flooding the zone. worried the federal budget could dominate and limit his agenda this year. he's pushing other issues. he's talking guns one day, immigration the next. making sure he's not drawn into a standoff with republicans over the economy which would quickly come to define his second term. today, he makes the case on immigration to business leaders, including ceos like steve case and monica lozano fr
. >>> red rover, karl rove's new push to score some winners is getting pushback from powerful conservative groups. this morning, a debate between one of rove's point men and one of his top critics. >>> and who do you know? and do you know who this guy is? you should. he just might be the most powerful person in israeli politics not named netanyahu right now. find out what an unexpected power surge from the center could mean for u.s. hopes for mideast peace. >>> good...
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let me tell you how i think karl rove views this. let me try to go into karl rove's mind with my hazmat suit. karl rove would probably say that you're focused on winning primaries. he's focused on winning elections. he would say that you guys are going to put up candidates who are -- will pass anyone's purity test like sharon ingle, my friend, christine o'donnell mr. mourdock, he will put up guys who could get elected although after last november, i'm not sure he can make that claim. what do you say to that claim that the tea party is marginalizing the party by getting unelectable candidates winning primaries? >> because it is not the tea party. the reason why we keep losing as republicans is because we keep going down the path of we keep nominating moderates and moderates don't win. why are we going to keep trying to sit there and listen to people unfortunately like governor jindal that say we need to move more to the left and become more like the democrats and appeal to all of these demographics. that's what's causing us to lose el
let me tell you how i think karl rove views this. let me try to go into karl rove's mind with my hazmat suit. karl rove would probably say that you're focused on winning primaries. he's focused on winning elections. he would say that you guys are going to put up candidates who are -- will pass anyone's purity test like sharon ingle, my friend, christine o'donnell mr. mourdock, he will put up guys who could get elected although after last november, i'm not sure he can make that claim. what do...
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. >>> feeling sorry for karl rove yet? he is having a lot of trouble getting republicans to listen to him these days. maybe he shouldn't have wasted 100 million of their dollars on the last election. >> will the republican change the substance of their position? >> we need to do better. >> what's going on inside the republican party? >> they've gotten spanked a couple of times. >> better conservative candidates and win. >> on the official republican side, you have karl rove. >> karl rove has a new super pac to get rid of candidate like steve king. >> some people believe to get rid of todd akin. >> the female body has ways to shut that down. >> the republican party ought to split. >> better conservative candidates and win. >> but they are not walking the walk. >> washington has to deal with its spending problem. >> the looming budget war. >> i've had enough of it. time to act. >> we've seen the republicans playing game. >> i love nancy pelosi. >> playing games with the budget. >> they recognize that the sequester is a bad i
. >>> feeling sorry for karl rove yet? he is having a lot of trouble getting republicans to listen to him these days. maybe he shouldn't have wasted 100 million of their dollars on the last election. >> will the republican change the substance of their position? >> we need to do better. >> what's going on inside the republican party? >> they've gotten spanked a couple of times. >> better conservative candidates and win. >> on the official republican...
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let's talk about karl rove here. terry jeffery editor of c.n.s. news has written an article saying karl rove is not a conservative. i know the battle lines and why they're doing this, but what do you think is rove really putting himself out there here and might he get damaged badly in this? >> karl rove, you think if he would have been damaged badly it would have happened in this most recent election. his pack backed eight candidates, seven of whom lost. todd akin was a religious conservative congressman from missouri who rove would have seen happy elected to the senate. he goofed, said those horrible things and blew the campaign apart. it's a little bit of a slippery slope for him because he was fine with what was going on there. karl rove is motivated by money. we all know that. >> cenk: really? >> we always have to remember about karl rove, he was a recount in florida away, a supreme court justice away from being one of the biggest political morons in history. if he had gotten, if george bush had last, we wouldn't be talking about him today. he
let's talk about karl rove here. terry jeffery editor of c.n.s. news has written an article saying karl rove is not a conservative. i know the battle lines and why they're doing this, but what do you think is rove really putting himself out there here and might he get damaged badly in this? >> karl rove, you think if he would have been damaged badly it would have happened in this most recent election. his pack backed eight candidates, seven of whom lost. todd akin was a religious...
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karl rove is out there fighting it. jim vandehei wrote in politico, it's not just karl rove wanting to get rid of the crazies. the party as a whole does. one high profile republican strategist who obviously refused to have his name in order to avoid inflaming -- >> it is feehery. >> it wasn't me. >> said there is a deliberate effort by party leaders to marginalize the cranks, haters, and bigots. there's a lot of underbrush that needs to be cleaned out. republican after republican told us the party dodged a bullet with mitt romney's loss. if he had squeaked in, this vital reboot would have been delayed. >> wasn't that mike murphy? >> it was feehery. >> let's speak for your party, john. so many people in your party think you have to do a better job of proctoring who gets the nominations and don't just leave it to the grassroots. your view? >> well, this is obviously a pretty divisive issue -- >> where are you? >> i don't like cranks and crazy people. i want winners. i want people who can win. now, that being said, you got
karl rove is out there fighting it. jim vandehei wrote in politico, it's not just karl rove wanting to get rid of the crazies. the party as a whole does. one high profile republican strategist who obviously refused to have his name in order to avoid inflaming -- >> it is feehery. >> it wasn't me. >> said there is a deliberate effort by party leaders to marginalize the cranks, haters, and bigots. there's a lot of underbrush that needs to be cleaned out. republican after...
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just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like, particularly tea party members he doesn't like. i love satisfying republicans eat each other alive. but i think this does pose a couple of important questions. number one after his record of blowing $400 million last year, why would anybody trust karl rove with a dime? and two, i want to know -- i want to know, damn it, how much money is karl rove making off these super pacs. you know he's not working for nothing. i'll get he's getting 10%. i'll bet he got $40 million out of that super pac last year. now he wants even more. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." armed with the facts, and t
just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like,...
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karl rove's super pack is already launching a preemptive attack against the actress. take a look. >> you know what this country really needs? an independent voice for obama. >> i am committed to president obama and vice president biden. i think he's a brilliant man. he is now able to flower more as the president i knew he could be. >> a leader who knows how to follow. >> i will go wherever the president wants me to go. >> someone who will never forget where she came from. >> and it just clicked, tennessee is home. and it just clicked -- >> kentucky. >> is home. >> someone from out of state who understands us. >> i don't know about a hillbilly's who golf. hillbilly's. >> her own grandmother says she's a hollywood liberal. but isn't that what we need? ashley judd, an obama following radical hollywood liberal who's right at home here in tennessee -- i mean kentucky. >> now i think that was karl rove's voice there when it said kentucky. he's -- he knows how to cut a political ad. i guess she's going to have to throw the towel in after that. this is part of a $10,000 media
karl rove's super pack is already launching a preemptive attack against the actress. take a look. >> you know what this country really needs? an independent voice for obama. >> i am committed to president obama and vice president biden. i think he's a brilliant man. he is now able to flower more as the president i knew he could be. >> a leader who knows how to follow. >> i will go wherever the president wants me to go. >> someone who will never forget where she...
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but why do they still have karl rove on their payroll? that's what i want to know. can't get everything right, i guess. have a good one folks. see you back here tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: hello current tvland. well, it's official jacki schechner i will never be secretary of defense. >> how come? >> stephanie: they are holding up his nomination among other things they want some information about someone in his office that sexually harassed someone else. >> oh, and you would be more directly involved. >> stephanie: yes. >> i'm pretty sure chuck hagel never had to make that call the next morning. >> stephanie: oh to jacki? sorry, i know you are straight. >> i'm less worried about myself and more worried about t-bone and chris. good morning, everybody, white house counter terrorism chief and cia director john brennan will head up to the hill today for his confirmation hearings. he is facing tough questions. some congressional committees had access to a memo in june but now that it has been made entirely public, it is raising all sorts of concerns abou
but why do they still have karl rove on their payroll? that's what i want to know. can't get everything right, i guess. have a good one folks. see you back here tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: hello current tvland. well, it's official jacki schechner i will never be secretary of defense. >> how come? >> stephanie: they are holding up his nomination among other things they want some information about someone in his office that sexually harassed someone else....
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. >>> plus, karl rove launches an assault on ashley judd to protect his pal mitch mcconnell. >> her own grandmother says she is a hollywood liberal. >> we'll tell you why old turd blossom is so desperate. fox news will always have a steve doocy. >> face-lift perhaps? >> good to have you with us, folks. thanks for watching. this opening story tonight, i'm telling you, i'm going to try to maintain my poise here. this should be a day of celebration for conservatives as they continue to chip away at the backbone of america. >> we're announcing that we are moving forward with a change to our national delivery schedule. the postal service delivery schedule will consist of six days of package delivery and five days of mail delivery. >> this story is everything i don't like about republicans. the slow death of the united states post office. folks, its under way. and americans just seem to sit back and well, let's accept it. that's the way it is. this once proud american institution will no longer deliver first class mail on saturday starting this summer. aren't we proud? moving forward now. and
. >>> plus, karl rove launches an assault on ashley judd to protect his pal mitch mcconnell. >> her own grandmother says she is a hollywood liberal. >> we'll tell you why old turd blossom is so desperate. fox news will always have a steve doocy. >> face-lift perhaps? >> good to have you with us, folks. thanks for watching. this opening story tonight, i'm telling you, i'm going to try to maintain my poise here. this should be a day of celebration for...
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karl rove was allowed stay. still bush's brain has been facing heat since his super pact said they would strain the tea from the party, and determine that less in -- the new strategy was met with mixed reviews. karl rove is a total loser. money given to him might as well be thrown down the drain, wrote the donald. radio host mark levin also weighed in. >> karl rove, let me tell you something. you're despised by the grassroots, and let me tell your donors something. stop wasting your money." >> never one to sit on the sidelines, the rush-inator said some of the strong-arm tactics were backfiring. >> the newspaper article about karl rove's intention is only serving to unite the tea party in ways even now it hasn't been. right now there is a unity and an energy maybe just short of a rebirth going on." >> that's right. a rebirth of the tea party. as a reminder, a few months ago karl rove was the evil architect trying to take down president obama. way, way, way back in september obama campaign manager jim messina wro
karl rove was allowed stay. still bush's brain has been facing heat since his super pact said they would strain the tea from the party, and determine that less in -- the new strategy was met with mixed reviews. karl rove is a total loser. money given to him might as well be thrown down the drain, wrote the donald. radio host mark levin also weighed in. >> karl rove, let me tell you something. you're despised by the grassroots, and let me tell your donors something. stop wasting your...
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karl rove is the voice of sanity in the republican party. i can't repeat it, but you get my drift. i know you at home are probably thinking to yourself. that jennifer granholm, she has gone off the deepened, it's a good thing it's her last night. but here's why and you'll know i'm right. karl rove who knows the only way republicans can win elections is if they nominate moderate, which is a relevant term in the republican party. and then you have the tea party wing with candidate like todd aiken, and we saw how that turned out. here to discuss it is michelle bernard p president of the bernard center. thank you so much for being here on my last night in "the war room." >> absolutely. >> jennifer: glad to have you. back me up here. tell everyone at home why i'm right about karl rove. >> you know what, i know--i know that your viewers are thinking that you have lost t but you're absolutely--you're absolutely right. i will tell you this as someone i have met karl rove on more than one occasion, and i know his reputation of being darth vader. but if you look at the statements he a making
karl rove is the voice of sanity in the republican party. i can't repeat it, but you get my drift. i know you at home are probably thinking to yourself. that jennifer granholm, she has gone off the deepened, it's a good thing it's her last night. but here's why and you'll know i'm right. karl rove who knows the only way republicans can win elections is if they nominate moderate, which is a relevant term in the republican party. and then you have the tea party wing with candidate like todd...
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karl rove said the american cross roads superpac is planning more ads attacking ashley judd. the democrat may be considering a run against senator republican leader mitch mcconnell. the superpac debuted an ad this week seeking to portray ashley judd as an inexperienced hollywood liberal who's not even a resident of kentucky. >>> a hacker apparently accessed private photos between both former presidents and claims to have a list of family addresses and phone numbers and e-mails. those are the things we just thought you should know. [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, potato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more... [ midwestern/chicago accent ] cheddar! yeah! 5
karl rove said the american cross roads superpac is planning more ads attacking ashley judd. the democrat may be considering a run against senator republican leader mitch mcconnell. the superpac debuted an ad this week seeking to portray ashley judd as an inexperienced hollywood liberal who's not even a resident of kentucky. >>> a hacker apparently accessed private photos between both former presidents and claims to have a list of family addresses and phone numbers and e-mails. those...